Breaking the Cycle: Recovery, Conscious Leadership, and Choosing a Different Legacy

This week on Living Undeterred, Jeff Johnston is joined by Hilary Phelps and Greg Shindler for a real conversation about recovery, grief, and breaking generational cycles.

Hilary Phelps is writer, speaker, and founder of The Right Room, and yes, the sister of Olympic legend Michael Phelps. Hilary shares her long-term sobriety journey and what keeps her grounded today, from recovery community to meditation and somatic tools, plus the courage it takes to stop hiding and start healing out loud.

Greg Shindler, CEO of Omya and “The Longevity CEO,” opens up about his turning point with sobriety and why he’s committed to ending inherited patterns for his kids. If you’ve ever felt like you should be “over it,” or wondered what healing actually looks like day to day, this episode will meet you with clarity and hope.

• Recovery is a practice, not a label. The routines you protect (community, movement, mindfulness) are what keep you steady.

• Breaking cycles is a leadership decision. You can choose to stop what you inherited and build something healthier for the people behind you.

• You don’t have to wait for rock bottom. Honest conversations and support earlier can change the trajectory before things spiral.

If you’ve ever felt like you should be “over it,” or wondered what healing looks like day to day, this episode will meet you with honesty, clarity, and hope.

This episode isn’t just a philosophy. It’s a blueprint for building a life that works.
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